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Cathie's Corner Blog

What Happens Outside Work, Stays Outside Work

(Discipline and Performance, Discrimination and Harassment, Privacy) Permanent link

(Published September 8, 2009)

I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about nepotism policies, but dating policies are a different story.

My only advice when it comes to nepotism policies is that family members should never, ever, ever be in the same reporting chain and, if possible, not in the same department. I think I've told you about the time we had to fire one employee for cause while his wife still worked in the same department; we had no issues with her, but she finally ended up quitting — the divided loyalties were just too much for her. On the other hand, I've had a brother running Shipping while his sister was in Administration; a husband in Sales with his wife in Accounting; cousins working in different field offices; and the occasional team of other family members working together. As long as you're careful to keep them out of each other's working orbit, I don't see a real problem with it.

Dating policies are much trickier. On the one hand, it's unreasonable to think that when people spend eight hours a day or longer together, they won't form attractions. Some people, for various reasons, don't have the opportunity to meet anyone other than at work.

On the other hand, should a relationship formed out of employment not work out, you've got some serious complications that could lead to legal action. The last thing you want is one of the partners claiming sexual harassment or gender discrimination, because of things that happened while they were off-duty.

On the other hand (yes, I know we're up to three hands now), how in the world are you going to enforce a policy that deals with things that happen when your employees are not at work?

So I don't think a no-dating policy is going to be the answer. I'm not so sure there is an answer. You all know me well enough by now to know that I don't believe in the one-size-fits-all scenario; there are too many possible variations from one company to another and even from one department to another. Exception: I think it's even more important that employees who are in a personal relationship are held to the "not in the same department and most certainly not in the same reporting chain" rule that I described above.

The problem is, and always will be, that it's an honor system. Even if you implement a policy that relationships need to be reported to HR and that it will result in transfers, not termination, not everyone is going to do so. They won't want to transfer to a different field office or store or department, because it will affect their childcare or their commute, or because they don't think it's the employer's business. And really, to a certain extent, they're right about the latter. If they can keep their relationship out of the office, why should they have to tell their employer?

It's only when it is affecting business that the employer needs to get involved in the employee's personal life. Maybe the way we need to address it is more like this: "We don't care what you do outside work or with whom you do it, as long as what you do outside work stays outside work. Our policy is that you can't be in a dating or family relationship with someone in your same reporting chain, so please let us know about any relationships with co-workers you may have so that we can avoid that. As long as that's followed, we won't terminate or transfer anyone, if it isn't affecting your work. If it starts to have an effect on business, one of you will be transferred to the Northbridge location faster than you can say, 'extra commuter rail stop.' Okay?"

Think that'll work? (Wink)

Catherine Bannon is an HR consultant in Marshfield, MA (catherine.bannon@gmail.com). Bannon worked for 10 years in HR management before starting her consulting practice.


I think your right! I also think that if you let the dating, and even marrying happen, then it is impossible for you to say one person in the company can't be freinds with or date and all others can. YA Think thats discrimination?
Posted by: kim at 9/8/2009 3:29 PM


I agree as well. At my current company my fiance and I both work in the same building/office but in different business units. We are not permitted to be in the same direct reporting chain. We actually met at our former company. At first we were coworkers and often hung out with other coworkers. Then he became my manager, around that same time we realized that we felt something more and wanted to start dating and so we immediately discussed it with our manager so that I could be transferred to another unit within the office.
Posted by: Jackie at 9/8/2009 3:41 PM


I don't know. I started dating my boyfriend last October. He worked in a different department that I do and he used to come by and see me frequently. His Manager told him that he was not allowed to come visit me or to wait in the break room for me after work -- but they let other employees in his work area have their kids come and wait for them in the break room and even visit them on the floor. By February, they had figured out a way to Terminate him by saying that his performance was poor. I think they Terminated him because we were dating.
Posted by: Miss C at 9/10/2009 3:05 PM


Well in our company we have a very sucessful husband/wife team working in the office shipping/billing dept. The husband brought his wife in when another person left. It worked out fine.
Posted by: AB at 9/11/2009 9:30 AM


No I would not have a policy in place that forbids dating co-workers. I, personally, would have a policy against managers dating subordinates, but leave people on equal footing or in non-related departments alone.

The reason I wouldn't have a strict no-dating policy is that it's impossible to enforce, so when you do enforce it you end up doing so selectively--albeit inadvertently selectively, another reason this is a bad policy, how do you define dating? Is going to a movie with a co-worker always a date? Does dating require some sort of physical relationship? These are questions I don't want to make a policy on.
Posted by: Eileen at 9/14/2009 12:21 AM


The dilemna of allowing office romance (whether dating or living together) in the same department is that most often than not, these couples bring their work home and react negatively towards other employees the following day (pending on which co-worker upset which partner). Likewise, if these couples had a fight the night before, everyone else at work can feel that there is something wrong. This type of situation is extremely difficult if the department or group is small in size(less than 20 people)and share the same work space. Couples who work in the same department that can keep work and home life separate are a rare find these days. I believe that, it will be fair for everyone (other employees and the couples)if the couples are from separate department.
Posted by: TPJ at 9/22/2009 9:40 PM


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