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Hiring For Fit

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(Published October 5, 2009)

Some hiring managers get so wrapped up in determining whether an applicant possesses the necessary skills/expertise/experience that they forget to assess how well the individual fits in with the corporate culture. 

Those that do take fit into consideration often fail to devote as much time to the process as they should.  They determine fit without questioning their rationale for why one applicant fits and another doesn't.  Such assessment is needed because hiring for fit could mask unintentional illegal discrimination, e.g., assuming all applicants over the age of 50 aren't "hip enough" to work in a trendy clothing store simply because of their age.  Guiding principle: Never ascribe personality traits to applicants based on their protected characteristics. 

Despite the short shrift that it is often given, a new hire's fit with the company's culture is imperative.  Think round peg in a square hole.  It just doesn't work.  No matter how perfect a skills match the new hire is, chances are good that they won't thrive in the position unless their personality jibes with the company culture, too.

One company that is committed to finding applicants that gel with its culture is Zappos.com.  Rebecca Ratner, SPHR, Director of Human Resources, shared with me how exactly Zappos hires for fit without crossing any legal lines.  In her own words...

When considering job candidates, we look for both a culture fit and a technical fit.  All candidates go through at least these two interviews — the culture fit with Recruiting and the technical fit with the hiring manager and his/her team.  Even if the tech skills and experience/expertise are there, we will not move forward if the culture fit is not.

The culture interview is framed around our 10 core values.  We spend about an hour asking specific questions about each value to assess a candidate's fit. 

For example, for our "create fun and a little weirdness" value, we ask, "On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how weird are you?"  There is no magic number.  But, if someone says 0, they'd probably hate working at Zappos; if they say 10, they are probably too weird for us.  It's more about the way the person responds to the question.  Someone who gets upset and flustered at having to give a number is probably not right for us; someone who laughs and then responds, probably is.

For our "deliver wow through service" value, we ask questions about the best and worst service a person has received and what makes the service so.  We ask for examples to illustrate their view of customer service and how they've exhibited great customer service in the past.

For our "build a positive team and family spirit" value, we ask candidates if they ever socialize with people they work with outside the office.  A standard or canned interview response is either "no" or "yes, but only within reason because there is a professional line that can't be crossed."  For us, this is a potential red flag as we expect employees to socialize to build team spirit.

Actually getting to see the true person is always a challenge because most people come to interviews with canned responses.  So, to try and get to see the real person, we incorporate:

  • Offices tours, during which we look at the candidate's reaction to what they are seeing, their body language, and what questions they ask.     
  • Themed interview rooms, such as our Elvis Presley room full of records and life-size Elvis cutouts or our CSI Las Vegas room with Vegas skyline wallpaper and crime scene tape. 
  • Games on our application, along with fun questions, like: If you could be any superhero, who would you be and why?   

Our hope is candidates will realize we are not a traditional corporate company and be themselves.

Many thanks to Rebecca for sharing her insights with me.  I'm willing to bet that Zappos isn't alone in its commitment to hiring for fit.  Post a comment below and tell me how your organization decides whether an applicant is a good fit with your company's culture.

Melissa V. Pomerantz
Editor


I have worked my entire 20+ years career in the not-for-profit cultural sector. It's very important that staff members understand what it's like to work for a not-for-profit arts organization. We're not "corporate" and we often lack resources that may be common at for-profit organizations. Salaries are relatively low. People come to work for us because they believe in our mission. We're somewhat "seat of the pants" in how we accomplish things. We tend not to work strict 9:00 to 5:00 schedules but may have activities late into the evening. We expect our employees to keep up with the current arts scene in one way or another. We have a relaxed dress code -- tattoos and "interesting" piercings are pretty common. Someone who's not interested in going to cultural events isn't going to be as enthusiastic about working in a cultural organization (although there are some exceptions, of course). Employees need to be able to work with "artsy" people who may not understand the basics of business protocol. Not everyone is suited to make those adjustments, but those people who do can enjoy many interesting experiences and work with some fascinating folk.
Posted by: Linda at 10/7/2009 2:45 PM


I have worked for mostly family owned companies my whole working career. If anyone tells you it is the same as working for a publicly owned company, don't believe them. There are more quirks in a family owned business than there are trees in a forest. And we have people, mostly upper management that come in and want to change the way things are run. It never happens and they always leave mad that it didn't go they way they thought it should. Our current upper management team is mostly long time employee's except one. He has the hardest time being happy in his job because he can't accept the mentality. AND they KEEP hiring these people for this position. HR can't get them to understand they need to match the person to the job not just the job to the qualifications.
Posted by: TN at 10/7/2009 4:38 PM


I guess I understand the desire to "fit in" in our society (be it the world or workplace). But are we ignoring the advantages of a diverse workforce (even beyond the color of our skin, religious beliefs, etc)?

To play devil's advocate here...shouldn't our workforce reflect the real world? Shouldn't we seek to hire individuals able to respect and work with a wide variety of people? Don't we become inbred when we only seek to hire those who are less likely to challenge the norms or who seek "fitting in" as a high goal?

Not to mention...is the "company culture" touted by the leaders of the organization even remotely similar to the day-to-day culture experienced by the average employee?

I'm just saying..."hiring for fit" always struck me as totally subjective. If a small group of hiring managers make decisions based on a personal assessment of the applicant's "fit"...a form of discrimination or, at a minimum, a limitation on ingenuity seems inevitable.

I think social Darwinism eventually prevails...but those who survive in the organization may actually learn from their exposure to and experience with those who didn't "fit in."
Posted by: Wendy at 10/7/2009 5:13 PM


At the end of the day, you want to make sure you can show that your selection instruments (separately and collectively) are manifestly related to performance on the job. I think Zappos would have some problems passing that test. (Duke Power and Albermarle Paper made similar arguments that didn't go well.)

It's not just about meeting a legal standard, but also doing what is fair to the applicants and in the best interests of the company. Assessing fit is extremely important, but due diligence and a modicum of validation are minimal criteria for a professional approach.
Posted by: ncooty at 10/7/2009 5:29 PM


Personality fit is extremely important to the success of the company as well as all the employees. If someone hates the culture of a company, but cannot afford to quit, eventually it will affect the other employees. Why hire someone who doesn't fit, just to have to fire them later. We all know the feeling when someone leaves that didn't quite "fit" - a black cloud lifts and people become productive again. New hires are expensive and time consuming for a company. Skills can sometimes be taught - personalities cannot.
Posted by: vann at 10/8/2009 7:20 AM


We definitely try to find a technical and cultural fit. We are a very small company with 17 employees and people have to wear many hats. They must keep up with a constantly changing environment. They go through many interviews. HR does the "cultural" interview while the President and lower managers do the technical interviews.
Posted by: Janet Mraz at 10/8/2009 12:20 PM


I don't see anywhere that Zappos suggested that they were not hiring with diversity in mind. I did read that they wanted people who were outgoing and fun -- people who could bring creativity to their jobs. Why can't you ask that of employees? People of many diverse backgrounds and lives could easily fit into a company that has the corporate culture that thrives at Zappos and I’ll bet they do. If someone comes in who is uncomfortable mixing in and playing along they are not going to be happy working for Zappos. Why would you ask anyone to work somewhere where they weren't happy?
Posted by: Georgia at 10/8/2009 1:58 PM


I agree with Wendy. I also believe that management needs to be challenged by newcomers especially in a family-owned business because many times they possess autocratic styles that don't benefit the employees at large or the company's profitability over decades of ownership and management. Company's need new creative blood to break through the inertia and old thought processes.
Posted by: Suz at 10/8/2009 2:11 PM


Employers better be able to define "cultural fit" because it is too easy to only hire people who look, think, and act like those doing the hiring. Legal considerations aside (and they are many), trying to build an organization that has no conflict is akin to the Titanic's crew believing the ship was unsinkable.
Posted by: Albert Davenport( Visit ) at 10/14/2009 3:17 PM


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